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From: Ozan Yarman (2010-04-28)
Subject: My first book (in Turkish alas)
Dear members, take note please!
My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in print.
This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
Analytical section.
Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I would
like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
Cordially,
Dr. Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
From: Cox Franklin (2010-04-28)
Subject: Re: [tuning] My first book (in Turkish alas)
Congratulations, Ozan. When is the English version coming out?
best
Franklin
Dr. Franklin Cox
1107 Xenia Ave.
Yellow Springs, OH 45387
(937) 767-1165
franklincox@...
--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
From: Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>
Subject: [tuning] My first book (in Turkish alas)
To: "Tuning List" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:29 PM
Dear members, take note please!
My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in print.
This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
Analytical section.
Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I would
like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
Cordially,
Dr. Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman. com
From: genewardsmith (2010-04-29)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
--- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear members, take note please!
>
> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in print.
In honor of the occasion, I present the following circulating temperament:
! ozancirc.scl
Circulating temperament in Ozan Yarman's 159-equal tuning
12
!
98.113207547169811321
196.22641509433962264
316.98113207547169811
384.90566037735849057
505.66037735849056604
588.67924528301886793
694.33962264150943396
807.54716981132075472
890.56603773584905661
1011.3207547169811321
1079.2452830188679245
1200.0000000000000000
This is pretty ruthless, I'm afraid, with a 9/7 major third and another sharp of 14/11. Probably George could do better; it could certainly be done differently as there are a lot of ways to cook something like this up. Anyway, y'all can have fun making Mozart's Turkish music into Turkish music by retuning it.
From: a_sparschuh (2010-04-29)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
> --- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@> wrote:
using
http://superspace.epfl.ch/approximator/
yields
> ! ozancirc.scl
> Circulating temperament in Ozan Yarman's 159-equal tuning
> 12
> !
18/17 ! C# > 98.113207547169811321
28/25 ! D_ > 196.22641509433962264
6/5 ! Eb__ > 316.98113207547169811
5/4 ! E___ > 384.90566037735849057
4/3 ! F___ > 505.66037735849056604 or closer 75/56 ?
7/5 ! F#__ > 588.67924528301886793 or closer 52/37 ?
112/75 ! G > 694.33962264150943396 or coarser 3/2 ?
51/32 ! G# > 807.54716981132075472
92/55 ! A_ > 890.56603773584905661 or coarser 5/3 ?
52/29 ! Bb > 1011.3207547169811321 or coarser 9/5 ?
13/7! B___ > 1079.2452830188679245 or closer 69/37 ?
2/1 ! c___ > 1200.0000000000000000
!
Are those more understandable ratios correct?
Bye
A.S.
From: Ozan Yarman (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: [tuning] My first book (in Turkish alas)
Thanks Franklin! Now that you mention it, I should put an English
translation on my agenda.
Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Cox Franklin wrote:
>
>
> Congratulations, Ozan. When is the English version coming out?
>
> best
>
> Franklin
>
> Dr. Franklin Cox
> 1107 Xenia Ave.
> Yellow Springs, OH 45387
> (937) 767-1165
> franklincox@...
>
> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Ozan Yarman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>
> Subject: [tuning] My first book (in Turkish alas)
> To: "Tuning List" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:29 PM
>
> Dear members, take note please!
>
> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in
> print.
>
> This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
> maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
> comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
>
> Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
> Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
> music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
> Analytical section.
>
> Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
> who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
> beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
> language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
> third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
> tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
> in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
>
> I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I would
> like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
>
> Cordially,
> Dr. Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman. com
>
>
From: Ozan Yarman (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
Nice. But too many super-pyth fifths there. Besides, 159-equal is not
my invention. My contribution is finding the 79-tone subset that
happens to be a MOS suitable for maqamat.
How about this one?
12-tone 79 MOS 159ET splendid beating
|
0: 1/1 0.000 unison, perfect prime
1: 91.689 cents 91.689
2: 196.552 cents 196.552
3: 302.375 cents 302.375
4: 392.909 cents 392.909
5: 4/3 498.045 perfect fourth
6: 589.342 cents 589.342
7: 3/2 701.955 perfect fifth
8: 792.077 cents 792.077
9: 897.524 cents 897.524
10: 1003.508 cents 1003.508
11: 1093.547 cents 1093.547
12: 2/1 1200.000 octave
Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:13 AM, genewardsmith wrote:
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear members, take note please!
>>
>> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
>> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in
>> print.
>
> In honor of the occasion, I present the following circulating
> temperament:
>
> ! ozancirc.scl
> Circulating temperament in Ozan Yarman's 159-equal tuning
> 12
> !
> 98.113207547169811321
> 196.22641509433962264
> 316.98113207547169811
> 384.90566037735849057
> 505.66037735849056604
> 588.67924528301886793
> 694.33962264150943396
> 807.54716981132075472
> 890.56603773584905661
> 1011.3207547169811321
> 1079.2452830188679245
> 1200.0000000000000000
>
> This is pretty ruthless, I'm afraid, with a 9/7 major third and
> another sharp of 14/11. Probably George could do better; it could
> certainly be done differently as there are a lot of ways to cook
> something like this up. Anyway, y'all can have fun making Mozart's
> Turkish music into Turkish music by retuning it.
>
From: genewardsmith (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
--- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Nice. But too many super-pyth fifths there. Besides, 159-equal is not
> my invention. My contribution is finding the 79-tone subset that
> happens to be a MOS suitable for maqamat.
>
> How about this one?
Pretty good, but of course identical to what you gave a few years ago when you were working this stuff out.
From: Ozan Yarman (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
And though you cannot read Turkish, one can still appreciate the cover
page design here:
http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/sesdunyamizdakapak.jpg
Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:04 AM, Carl Lumma wrote:
> Congratulations, Ozan. If only I read Turkish. -Carl
>
> At 04:29 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> Dear members, take note please!
>>
>> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
>> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in
>> print.
>>
>> This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
>> maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
>> comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
>>
>> Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
>> Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
>> music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
>> Analytical section.
>>
>> Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
>> who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
>> beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
>> language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
>> third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
>> tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
>> in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
>>
>> I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I
>> would
>> like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Dr. Oz.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
From: Chris Vaisvil (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
That is a cool cover!
And thanks for the explanation on the beating. Sound like a confused
perception. But perhaps that professor has ringing in his ears and
notes beat against that. It may sound silly but actually that happens
to my wife.
Chris
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> And though you cannot read Turkish, one can still appreciate the cover page design here:
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/sesdunyamizdakapak.jpg
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
> On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:04 AM, Carl Lumma wrote:
>
From: a_sparschuh (2010-04-30)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
--- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote/asked:
> How about this one?
> 12-tone 79 MOS 159ET splendid beating
> |
> 0: 1/1 0.000 unison, perfect prime
> 1: 91.689 cents 91.689
> 2: 196.552 cents 196.552
> 3: 302.375 cents 302.375
> 4: 392.909 cents 392.909
> 5: 4/3 498.045 perfect fourth
> 6: 589.342 cents 589.342
> 7: 3/2 701.955 perfect fifth
> 8: 792.077 cents 792.077
> 9: 897.524 cents 897.524
> 10: 1003.508 cents 1003.508
> 11: 1093.547 cents 1093.547
> 12: 2/1 1200.000 octave
>
There are also some rational approximations near to yours Cent-values:
C 0: 1/1
# 1: 2^(91.689/1200) = ~1.054389... > (19/18) ~91.1386239...C
D 2: 2^(196.552/1200) = ~1.120228... > (28/25) ~196.198479...C
# 3: 2^(302.375/1200) = ~1.190839... > (25/21) ~301.846520...C
E 4: 2^(392.909/1200) = ~1.254771... > (64/51) ~393.089593...C
F 5: 4/3
# 6: 2^(589.342/1200) = ~1.405533... < (45/32) ~590.22371...C
G 7: 3/2
# 8: 2^(792.077/1200) = ~1.580152... < (128/81) ~792.17999...C
A 9: 2^(897.524/1200) = ~1.679389... < (42/25) ~898.15348...C
# 10: 2^(1003.508/1200) = ~1.785411... > (25/14) ~1003.8015...C
B 11: 2^(1093.547/1200) = ~1.880725... > (47/25) ~1092.8791...C
c 12: 2/1
Attend:
Each pitch deviates less than only 1 Cent depart from the original.
That Approximation yields in terms of the 'scala' file format:
!OzYarmanApprox.scl
Ozan Yarman's 79-MOS-159ET splendid-beating rat. approx. by Sparschuh
!compiled within precision accuracy of less than 1 Cent deviation
!
12
!
19/18
28/25
25/21
64/51
4/3
45/32
3/2
128/81
42/25
25/14
47/25
2/1
!
![eof]
Conclusion:
Hence yours choices near to that reasonable ratios sounds well apt
at least in my ears.
bye
A.S.
From: Ozan Yarman (2010-05-08)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
All of these ratios - save 19/18 and 47/25 - appear in my doctorate
dissertation (pp. 95-6) as viable approximations to the 79 MOS 2 deg
159-EDO degrees, Andreas. :)
But, you have miscalculated the cents for 19/18. It should have been
93.60301440152743 cents, not 91.1386239.
I would suggest, instead of the absent ratios above, 135/128 and
32/17. Any simpler ratio for the limma tends to fall away from the
intended 91.7 cents.
Cordially,
Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:39 PM, a_sparschuh wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote/
> asked:
>> How about this one?
>> 12-tone 79 MOS 159ET splendid beating
>> |
>> 0: 1/1 0.000 unison, perfect prime
>> 1: 91.689 cents 91.689
>> 2: 196.552 cents 196.552
>> 3: 302.375 cents 302.375
>> 4: 392.909 cents 392.909
>> 5: 4/3 498.045 perfect fourth
>> 6: 589.342 cents 589.342
>> 7: 3/2 701.955 perfect fifth
>> 8: 792.077 cents 792.077
>> 9: 897.524 cents 897.524
>> 10: 1003.508 cents 1003.508
>> 11: 1093.547 cents 1093.547
>> 12: 2/1 1200.000 octave
>>
> There are also some rational approximations near to yours Cent-values:
>
> C 0: 1/1
> # 1: 2^(91.689/1200) = ~1.054389... > (19/18) ~91.1386239...C
> D 2: 2^(196.552/1200) = ~1.120228... > (28/25) ~196.198479...C
> # 3: 2^(302.375/1200) = ~1.190839... > (25/21) ~301.846520...C
> E 4: 2^(392.909/1200) = ~1.254771... > (64/51) ~393.089593...C
> F 5: 4/3
> # 6: 2^(589.342/1200) = ~1.405533... < (45/32) ~590.22371...C
> G 7: 3/2
> # 8: 2^(792.077/1200) = ~1.580152... < (128/81) ~792.17999...C
> A 9: 2^(897.524/1200) = ~1.679389... < (42/25) ~898.15348...C
> # 10: 2^(1003.508/1200) = ~1.785411... > (25/14) ~1003.8015...C
> B 11: 2^(1093.547/1200) = ~1.880725... > (47/25) ~1092.8791...C
> c 12: 2/1
>
> Attend:
> Each pitch deviates less than only 1 Cent depart from the original.
>
> That Approximation yields in terms of the 'scala' file format:
>
> !OzYarmanApprox.scl
> Ozan Yarman's 79-MOS-159ET splendid-beating rat. approx. by Sparschuh
> !compiled within precision accuracy of less than 1 Cent deviation
> !
> 12
> !
> 19/18
> 28/25
> 25/21
> 64/51
> 4/3
> 45/32
> 3/2
> 128/81
> 42/25
> 25/14
> 47/25
> 2/1
> !
> ![eof]
>
> Conclusion:
> Hence yours choices near to that reasonable ratios sounds well apt
> at least in my ears.
>
> bye
> A.S.
>
>
>
>
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From: cameron (2010-05-11)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
Congratulations Ozan!
It's wonderful you have a book in print. Now to get it translated into English, don't you think? There must be some way you could apply for EU funds to get it issued in English or German (a very large section of those who'd be interested would very likely read both languages).
-Cameron Bobro
--- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear members, take note please!
>
> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in print.
>
> This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
> maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
> comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
>
> Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
> Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
> music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
> Analytical section.
>
> Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
> who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
> beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
> language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
> third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
> tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
> in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
>
> I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I would
> like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
>
> Cordially,
> Dr. Oz.
>
>
> â\ufffd© â\ufffd© â\ufffd©
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
From: Ozan Yarman (2010-05-12)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
Thanks Cameron! I'm not sure about German, but I could easily overcome
the translation-to-English obstacle. Will consider putting this task
on my agenda in the future.
Oz.
✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com
On May 11, 2010, at 8:10 AM, cameron wrote:
> Congratulations Ozan!
>
> It's wonderful you have a book in print. Now to get it translated
> into English, don't you think? There must be some way you could
> apply for EU funds to get it issued in English or German (a very
> large section of those who'd be interested would very likely read
> both languages).
>
> -Cameron Bobro
>
> --- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear members, take note please!
>>
>> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
>> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in
>> print.
>>
>> This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
>> maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
>> comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
>>
>> Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
>> Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
>> music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
>> Analytical section.
>>
>> Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
>> who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
>> beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
>> language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
>> third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
>> tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
>> in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
>>
>> I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I
>> would
>> like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Dr. Oz.
>>
>>
>> â\ufffd© â\ufffd© â\ufffd©
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>
>
>
>
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From: Michael (2010-05-12)
Subject: Bohlen-Pierce and non-triadic chords
I played around a bit with the Bohlen-Pierce scale. Unfortunately (even with a Clarinet as a very odd-numbered timbre), I noticed a few of even the 3:5:7 triads did not sound so good and many other chords I tried simply sounded very tense.
Do any of your have any good BP tutorial links (maybe my mind is just confused and gravitating to the wrong chords?) and/or notice some problems with how BP works with regards to non-triadic chords?
From: Chris (2010-05-12)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Bohlen-Pierce and non-triadic chords
Tutorials in BP
I suggest you go to xenharmonic allience and watch the videos of Elaine Walker performing BP music with triads, melody and all in excellent pop music. One should be able to pick up some if not all of it by ear.
Chris
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael <djtrancendance@...>
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 06:40:34
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [tuning] Bohlen-Pierce and non-triadic chords
I played around a bit with the Bohlen-Pierce scale. Unfortunately (even with a Clarinet as a very odd-numbered timbre), I noticed a few of even the 3:5:7 triads did not sound so good and many other chords I tried simply sounded very tense.
Do any of your have any good BP tutorial links (maybe my mind is just confused and gravitating to the wrong chords?) and/or notice some problems with how BP works with regards to non-triadic chords?
From: Petr Parízek (2010-05-12)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Bohlen-Pierce and non-triadic chords
Michael wrote:
> Do any of your have any good BP tutorial links (maybe my mind is just
> confused and gravitating
> to the wrong chords?) and/or notice some problems with how BP works with
> regards to non-triadic chords?
Depends on what you call triadic. What do you say to this example?
http://www.box.net/shared/c87ouyfbde
Petr
From: Michael (2010-05-12)
Subject: Re: [tuning] Bohlen-Pierce and non-triadic chords
Still sounds odd "even" with the well-chosen timbre. For example, the 4th and 6th notes seem "off"...perhaps even just on the basis of root tone (IE disregarding any overtone matching). And I'd say 70% of the chords sound off...and I have faith you are picking "theoretically sound" chords. Maybe it's just me but I get this odd feeling BP, while based on a good idea (matching exclusively odd harmonics)...isn't all it's cracked up to be.
It really makes me wonder should the factors 3,5,7,9,11 have been used instead of "just" 3,5,7.
Using 3/5/7/9/11 and mirrors I get the following possible intervals (a lot of which are from BP...but many which are not)
Note INV = inverse AKA mirror around 3/1.
1/1
11/9 = 1.22222
9/7 = 1.2857 (INV of 2.3333333 AKA 3/2.33333)
15/11 = 1.3636363 (INV of 2.2)
7/5 = 1.4
11/7 = 1.571428
5/3 = 1.66666666666666 (INV of 1.8)
9/5 = 1.8
22/11 = 1.9090909 (INV of 1.571428)
15/7 = 2.142857 (INV of 1.4)
11/5 = 2.2
7/3 = 2.3333333333
22/11 = 2.454545 (INV of 1.222222)
3/1
...which I figure would make creating a BP-style scale a process of picking any of these as roots and seeing how many dyads can be formed which match or near-match ratios from the above list.
From: cameron (2010-05-12)
Subject: Re: My first book (in Turkish alas)
Eh, my connection lapsed as I was writing to you, back again via PM tomorrow on this, good night all!
--- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Cameron! I'm not sure about German, but I could easily overcome
> the translation-to-English obstacle. Will consider putting this task
> on my agenda in the future.
>
> Oz.
>
> â\ufffd© â\ufffd© â\ufffd©
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 8:10 AM, cameron wrote:
>
> > Congratulations Ozan!
> >
> > It's wonderful you have a book in print. Now to get it translated
> > into English, don't you think? There must be some way you could
> > apply for EU funds to get it issued in English or German (a very
> > large section of those who'd be interested would very likely read
> > both languages).
> >
> > -Cameron Bobro
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear members, take note please!
> >>
> >> My first publication, titled (in Turkish): "New Horizons in Our Pitch
> >> Universe - From The Dimension of Theory and Technique" is now in
> >> print.
> >>
> >> This book contains my tuning and theory related endeavours on the
> >> maqam tradition spanning the last 10 years of my academic career and
> >> comprises critiques against my "local rivals" in the field.
> >>
> >> Therein is included three tone-systems (79 MOS 159-tET, Yarman-24 and
> >> Yarman-36) to explain the subtle nuances of pitch in Turkish Maqam
> >> music at three different levels of discreteness. This is the
> >> Analytical section.
> >>
> >> Therein is also included three critiques against first: a Professor
> >> who claims that one need not hear two pitches together to perceive
> >> beats, second: a famous Maqam music composer whose rather coarse
> >> language and agenda gives away his over-nationalistic sentiments,
> >> third: an overbearing Jazz musician who took it a fancy to peddle 48-
> >> tone Equal Temperament as a great innovation for Turkish Maqam music
> >> in all due theoretical incompetence. This is the Critique section.
> >>
> >> I had much joy and fun when the paperback arrived in my hands. I
> >> would
> >> like to share this moment of pride with my colleagues on the lists.
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Dr. Oz.
> >>
> >>
> >> â\ufffd© â\ufffd© â\ufffd©
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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