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From: Gene Ward Smith (2006-01-21)
Subject: Re: Verses Five Five posted
--- In [email protected], brentishere@c... wrote:
> And no, it won't be in 46-ET when I strike out that way: It'll be 15-ET.
I figured that might be the case, but there's no harm in suggesting
it, I hope. If anyone out there wants to do a retuned version of
15-et, there is a temperament called valentine which so far as I know
has not yet been used. 46 is an excellent tuning for it, and it has a
15 note MOS scale. Here it is:
scale: [3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 34, 37, 40, 43, 46]
steps: [3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3]
! valentine15.scl
Valentine[15] in 46-et tuning
15
!
78.260870
156.521739
234.782609
313.043478
391.304348
469.565217
547.826087
626.086957
704.347826
782.608696
886.956522
965.217391
1043.478261
1121.739130
1200.000000
Full thread (6 messages)
From: [email protected] (2006-01-19)
Subject: Verses Five Five posted
At my Meta-site:
http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/
I have uploaded my latest tune,
Verses Five Five (Introit)
Direct links for the browsing-impaired:
Page:
http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/Verses.html
Tune:
http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/music/versesfivefive.mp3
Score:
http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/music/VersesFiveFiveIntroit.pdf
Text:
You belong to the day and the light
Not to the dark and the night.
You cannot stand the sight of the proud;
You hate all the wicked.
This hope does not disappoint,
For God has poured out his love
With the Holy Spirit,
Who is God's gift to us.
We in spirit, by faith,
Wait for the hope of justice.
Blessed are the meek!
For they shall inherit the earth
Some things used:
Melody Assistant with Virtual Singer, Tracktion2, EnergyXT, SIR, CloneEnsemble, this, that, the other thing......
And yes, I've crossposted to other boards, other forums. Not terribly tuning-related, I know, but I'm working up to that........
So there.
-bjc
From: Gene Ward Smith (2006-01-19)
Subject: Re: Verses Five Five posted
--- In [email protected], brentishere@c... wrote:
> And yes, I've crossposted to other boards, other forums. Not
terribly tuning-related, I know, but I'm working up to that........
Write your next one in 46 equal, and it will be.
From: [email protected] (2006-01-20)
Subject: Re: Verses Five Five posted
From: Carl Lumma <ekin@...>
>There's unpleasant static preceding each attack, which sounds
>like clipping but my guess is it's the fricatives in your
>voice synth (typically done with noise bursts) lining up too much.
>Have you tried staggering the attacks across parts by either
>entering them from a keyboard or using something like midihum
>by Gunter Nagler?
Funny: Other people have complained that it was just too darn wet, and that my reverb-iness is what really ruins it for them. The sound card I listen to this on seems to make drastic differences on the .mp3 file (the original .wav file didn't seem to everly-reverb-ed nor were the consonants offensive at the house. the office was waaaay too tube-y sounding)
If the consonants are over-blowing the output, then off-setting them will lenghten the time it's overblown, not lessen the over-blow-iness (good thought, tho).
There's a lot of discussion on the Myriad website about how to improve the sound from their Virtual Singer that have so far dealt with the vowels (because Praat can analyze them). There needs to be some improvement on the consonant side, too, though. The challenge is how to make improved consonants with formant synthesis (as that's the VS engine). Anybody know of a good analysis set already done with consonants in formant synthesis (or is the hard way the only option [doing it myself]?) ?.
I did try de-essing: maybe I need to tune up my de-esser some more.
And the score was quick and dirty (I know), so there is no shortage of need for improvement there.........
And no, it won't be in 46-ET when I strike out that way: It'll be 15-ET.
-bjc
From: Gene Ward Smith (2006-01-21)
Subject: Re: Verses Five Five posted
--- In [email protected], brentishere@c... wrote:
> And no, it won't be in 46-ET when I strike out that way: It'll be 15-ET.
I figured that might be the case, but there's no harm in suggesting
it, I hope. If anyone out there wants to do a retuned version of
15-et, there is a temperament called valentine which so far as I know
has not yet been used. 46 is an excellent tuning for it, and it has a
15 note MOS scale. Here it is:
scale: [3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 34, 37, 40, 43, 46]
steps: [3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3]
! valentine15.scl
Valentine[15] in 46-et tuning
15
!
78.260870
156.521739
234.782609
313.043478
391.304348
469.565217
547.826087
626.086957
704.347826
782.608696
886.956522
965.217391
1043.478261
1121.739130
1200.000000
From: Paul Erlich (2006-01-23)
Subject: Re: Verses Five Five posted
--- In [email protected], brentishere@c... wrote:
> If the consonants are over-blowing the output, then off-setting them
will lenghten the time it's overblown, not lessen the over-blow-iness
(good thought, tho).
Wouldn't off-setting them reduce the peaks in the waveform relative to
having all of them simulteneously sounding (and thus their waveforms
adding)? And if so, wouldn't the reduction of these peaks reduce the
chances, or at least the severity, of clipping? Isn't this "over-blow-
iness" a sort of clipping -- or is it something else?
From: Carl Lumma (2006-01-24)
Subject: Re: [MMM] Re: Verses Five Five posted
>> If the consonants are over-blowing the output, then off-setting them
>> will lenghten the time it's overblown, not lessen the over-blow-iness
>> (good thought, tho).
>
>Wouldn't off-setting them reduce the peaks in the waveform relative to
>having all of them simulteneously sounding (and thus their waveforms
>adding)? And if so, wouldn't the reduction of these peaks reduce the
>chances, or at least the severity, of clipping? Isn't this "over-blow-
>iness" a sort of clipping -- or is it something else?
The final file isn't clipping. The source file might be, but it
sounds more to me just like badly-synthesized fricatives.
-Carl