diamond9plus-marvel

Marvel tempering of diamond9 plus secors up and down

Properties

Notes21
Period1200.0 ¢
JustNo
Source Mailing lists
Referencehttps://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_92097.html#92097
Thread2 scales
Tone (¢) Step (¢)
116 116
182 67
201 19
231 30
268 37
317 49
384 67
433 49
499 67
585 86
615 30
701 86
767 67
816 49
883 67
932 49
969 37
999 30
1018 19
1084 67
1200 116

Similar scales

FileNotesRotationMax diff (¢)
rosatimarv 21 0 1.9
diamond9plus 21 0 2.6

Parent scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
perz 27 3.9
chair 36 2.8
miracle3 41 2.2
miracle41s 41 2.3
xen18-erlich-miracle-41 41 2.3
studwacko 41 2.3
partch_37 37 3.9
miracle41 41 2.7
caleb44 44 2.4
jove41 41 3.5

Child scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
marvel11 11 0.3
marveldene 12 0.3
semafip 9 0.4
qm2 7 1.1
elfkeenanismic7 7 1.2
pship 10 1.2
xen15-chalmers-triadic-diamond-8192-6561 7 1.3
xen03-wilson-negative-05 5 1.3
porchrome1 7 1.3
xen10-wilson-purvi-06b-04 7 1.3
Mailing list post
From: genewardsmith (2010-08-28)
Subject: Plugging the holes in the 9-limit tonality diamond

Before we attempt to plug them we should first find them. The 9-limit diamond has a 5-limit diamond sitting inside it: {1/1, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 5/3}. In a symmetrical 5-limit pitch-class lattice, this is the hexagon surrounding the central 1/1. Off to one side we find {9/8, 7/6, 5/4, 7/5, 3/2, 14/9}. This is approximately a hollowed-out 5-limit diamond, meaning minus the central 1/1, transposed down a secor, in the sense that half the notes are transposed 15/14 down and half 16/15 down. Similarly, {9/7, 4/3, 10/7. 8/5, 12/7, 16/9} is an approximate hollow 5-limit diamond, or hollow hexagon, transposed up a secor.

Hence, we can fill in the holes by adding a secor (for which we can use sqrt(8/7)) up and down to the diamond, obtaining the following:

! diamond9plus.scl
9-limit tonality diamond extended with two secors
21
!
115.587
10/9
9/8
8/7
7/6
6/5
5/4
9/7
4/3
7/5
10/7
3/2
14/9
8/5
5/3
12/7
7/4
16/9
9/5
1084.413
2/1

Alternatively, we can use marvel temperament, tempering out 225/224 (and not so incidentally, 385/384):

! diamond9plus-marvel.scl
Marvel tempering of diamond9 plus secors up and down
! Tuning is 1/6 septimal kleisma flat fifth
! 1/3 septimal kleisma flat major third
! Minimax over the 9-limit diamond
21
!
115.58705
182.40371
201.33949
231.17409
268.15616
316.92654
383.74321
432.51359
499.33025
585.08270
614.91730
700.66975
767.48641
816.25679
883.07346
931.84384
968.82591
998.66051
1017.59629
1084.41295
1200.00000

Aside from all the 9-limit harmony, there are distinct 11-limit implications in these scales.
Full thread (1 messages)
From: genewardsmith (2010-08-28)
Subject: Plugging the holes in the 9-limit tonality diamond

Before we attempt to plug them we should first find them. The 9-limit diamond has a 5-limit diamond sitting inside it: {1/1, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 5/3}. In a symmetrical 5-limit pitch-class lattice, this is the hexagon surrounding the central 1/1. Off to one side we find {9/8, 7/6, 5/4, 7/5, 3/2, 14/9}. This is approximately a hollowed-out 5-limit diamond, meaning minus the central 1/1, transposed down a secor, in the sense that half the notes are transposed 15/14 down and half 16/15 down. Similarly, {9/7, 4/3, 10/7. 8/5, 12/7, 16/9} is an approximate hollow 5-limit diamond, or hollow hexagon, transposed up a secor.

Hence, we can fill in the holes by adding a secor (for which we can use sqrt(8/7)) up and down to the diamond, obtaining the following:

! diamond9plus.scl
9-limit tonality diamond extended with two secors
21
!
115.587
10/9
9/8
8/7
7/6
6/5
5/4
9/7
4/3
7/5
10/7
3/2
14/9
8/5
5/3
12/7
7/4
16/9
9/5
1084.413
2/1

Alternatively, we can use marvel temperament, tempering out 225/224 (and not so incidentally, 385/384):

! diamond9plus-marvel.scl
Marvel tempering of diamond9 plus secors up and down
! Tuning is 1/6 septimal kleisma flat fifth
! 1/3 septimal kleisma flat major third
! Minimax over the 9-limit diamond
21
!
115.58705
182.40371
201.33949
231.17409
268.15616
316.92654
383.74321
432.51359
499.33025
585.08270
614.91730
700.66975
767.48641
816.25679
883.07346
931.84384
968.82591
998.66051
1017.59629
1084.41295
1200.00000

Aside from all the 9-limit harmony, there are distinct 11-limit implications in these scales.

Raw file

! diamond9plus-marvel.scl
Marvel tempering of diamond9 plus secors up and down
! Tuning is 1/6 septimal kleisma flat fifth
! 1/3 septimal kleisma flat major third
! Minimax over the 9-limit diamond
21
!
115.58705
182.40371
201.33949
231.17409
268.15616
316.92654
383.74321
432.51359
499.33025
585.08270
614.91730
700.66975
767.48641
816.25679
883.07346
931.84384
968.82591
998.66051
1017.59629
1084.41295
1200.00000
!
! https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_92097.html#92097
!
! [info]
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! msg_id = 92097